• Weekly nodelist report on noteworthy changes (093)

    From Ivan Zelenyi@2:50/86 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sun Apr 5 11:29:40 2026
    Привет, Wilfred!

    03 апр 26 12:19, Wilfred van Velzen -> All:

    5079@inbox.ru Not directly tested, but the email address seems to
    exist.

    Yes, this e-mail is for receiving bundles. At March 2026, Alexey 2:5020/8912 and I tested the work of fidonode-fidopoint by e-mail. now this is relevant in the case of a total "white list".


    С наилучшими пожеланиями, Ivan.

    nizhnevartovsk WX: +5?C, Humidity 93%, Wind ?8km/h, 993hPa, 0.0mm Fog
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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sun Apr 5 18:40:56 2026
    * Originally in nodelist-police
    * Crossposted in fmail_help
    Hi Wilfred.

    05 Apr 26 11:29:40, Ivan Zelenyi wrote to you:

    5079@inbox.ru Not directly tested, but the email address seems to
    exist.

    Yes, this e-mail is for receiving bundles. At March 2026, Alexey 2:5020/8912 and I tested the work of fidonode-fidopoint by e-mail. now this is relevant in the case of a total "white list".

    Fmail can send mail bundles via email. It would be nice if it could search the nodelist for IMI flags. ;-)

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: Point One (2:221/1.1)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Apr 5 19:18:18 2026
    Hello Tommi,

    On Sunday April 05 2026 18:40, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    Yes, this e-mail is for receiving bundles. At March 2026, Alexey
    2:5020/8912 and I tested the work of fidonode-fidopoint by
    e-mail. now this is relevant in the case of a total "white list".

    Fmail can send mail bundles via email.

    Could. Past tense. FMAIL can only send via SMTP and no e-mail server accepts that any more. You need at least starttls or something like that.

    It would be nice if it could search the nodelist for IMI flags. ;-)

    No use, see above.


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Apr 5 20:52:46 2026
    Hi Michiel.

    05 Apr 26 19:18:18, you wrote to me:

    Yes, this e-mail is for receiving bundles. At March 2026, Alexey
    2:5020/8912 and I tested the work of fidonode-fidopoint by
    e-mail. now this is relevant in the case of a total "white list".

    Fmail can send mail bundles via email.

    Could. Past tense. FMAIL can only send via SMTP and no e-mail server accepts that any more. You need at least starttls or something like
    that.

    You're so wrong.

    === Cut ===
    ---------- Sun 2026-04-05, FMail-lnx64-2.3.2.6-Beta20260403 - Pack
    18:37:30 Message #60 : 2:221/6 -> 2:221/1000
    18:37:30 Moving /bbs/fmail/netmail/60.msg to /bbs/fmail/netmail-sent/184.msg
    18:37:30 Backup /bbs/bso/fido/9d281ba0.pkt -> /bbs/fmail/backup/out/9d281ba0.pkt
    18:37:30 Create /bbs/bso/fido/00dd03e8.clo
    18:37:30 Sending new mail from 2:221/6.66 to 2:221/1000
    18:37:30 Connecting to localhost (127.0.0.1) on port 25 (SMTP)
    18:37:30 Sending mail for node 2:221/1000 to fidomail@fidonet.fi
    18:37:30 SMTP connection closed
    18:37:30 Netmail: 1, Personal: 0, Hudson: 0, JAMbase: 0
    18:37:30 Msgbase net: 0, echo: 0, dup: 0, bad: 0
    18:37:30 Pack Active: 0.0076 sec.
    === Cut ===

    Sent and received fine.

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: Point One (2:221/1.1)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Apr 5 21:36:54 2026
    Hello Tommi,

    On Sunday April 05 2026 20:52, you wrote to me:

    Fmail can send mail bundles via email.

    Could. Past tense. FMAIL can only send via SMTP and no e-mail
    server accepts that any more. You need at least starttls or
    something like that.

    You're so wrong.

    === Cut ===
    ---------- Sun 2026-04-05, FMail-lnx64-2.3.2.6-Beta20260403 - Pack
    18:37:30 Message #60 : 2:221/6 -> 2:221/1000
    18:37:30 Moving /bbs/fmail/netmail/60.msg to /bbs/fmail/netmail-sent/184.msg 18:37:30 Backup /bbs/bso/fido/9d281ba0.pkt ->
    /bbs/fmail/backup/out/9d281ba0.pkt 18:37:30 Create /bbs/bso/fido/00dd03e8.clo 18:37:30 Sending new mail from 2:221/6.66
    to 2:221/1000 18:37:30 Connecting to localhost (127.0.0.1) on port 25 (SMTP) 18:37:30 Sending mail for node 2:221/1000 to
    fidomail@fidonet.fi 18:37:30 SMTP connection closed 18:37:30
    Netmail: 1, Personal: 0, Hudson: 0, JAMbase: 0 18:37:30 Msgbase
    net: 0, echo: 0, dup: 0, bad: 0 18:37:30 Pack Active: 0.0076 sec.
    === Cut ===

    Sent and received fine.

    Yeah, if you have your own SMTP server....

    None of the e-mail providers that I use still accept SMTP on port 25.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Apr 5 21:51:40 2026
    * Originally in FMAIL_HELP
    * Crossposted in NODELIST-POLICE

    Hi Tommi,

    On 2026-04-05 18:40:56, you wrote to me:

    5079@inbox.ru Not directly tested, but the email address seems to
    exist.

    Yes, this e-mail is for receiving bundles. At March 2026, Alexey
    2:5020/8912 and I tested the work of fidonode-fidopoint by e-mail. now
    this is relevant in the case of a total "white list".

    Fmail can send mail bundles via email. It would be nice if it could search the
    nodelist for IMI flags. ;-)

    It can send bundles via binkpd. It doesn't search the nodelist for IBN flags either... ?

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.6-B20251227
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Apr 5 21:53:36 2026
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2026-04-05 19:18:18, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    Fmail can send mail bundles via email.

    MvdV> Could. Past tense. FMAIL can only send via SMTP and no e-mail server accepts
    MvdV> that any more. You need at least starttls or something like that.

    In my experience, that is not true.

    And as Tommi demonstrated, you can always setup your own mail server and use that as a relay.


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.6-B20251227
    * Origin: NPC Station (2:280/464)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Apr 6 10:30:16 2026
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Sunday April 05 2026 21:53, you wrote to me:

    Fmail can send mail bundles via email.

    MvdV>> Could. Past tense. FMAIL can only send via SMTP and no e-mail
    MvdV>> server accepts that any more. You need at least starttls or
    MvdV>> something like that.

    In my experience, that is not true.

    In my experience an e-mail client that is limited to SMTP over port 25 is pretty useless these days. I have not been able to find a server that will accept fmail's mail packets.

    And as Tommi demonstrated, you can always setup your own mail server
    and use that as a relay.

    Setting up you own mail server is difficult these days. Most providers block incoming mail ports. So that mailserver would only serve to relay outgoing masil packets for fmail. That is too much effort for too little return.

    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Apr 6 11:48:12 2026
    Hello Tommi,

    On Sunday April 05 2026 20:52, you wrote to me:

    Could. Past tense. FMAIL can only send via SMTP and no e-mail
    server accepts that any more. You need at least starttls or
    something like that.

    You're so wrong.

    === Cut ===
    ---------- Sun 2026-04-05, FMail-lnx64-2.3.2.6-Beta20260403 - Pack
    18:37:30 Message #60 : 2:221/6 -> 2:221/1000
    18:37:30 Moving /bbs/fmail/netmail/60.msg to /bbs/fmail/netmail-sent/184.msg 18:37:30 Backup /bbs/bso/fido/9d281ba0.pkt ->
    /bbs/fmail/backup/out/9d281ba0.pkt 18:37:30 Create /bbs/bso/fido/00dd03e8.clo 18:37:30 Sending new mail from 2:221/6.66
    to 2:221/1000 18:37:30 Connecting to localhost (127.0.0.1) on port 25 (SMTP) 18:37:30 Sending mail for node 2:221/1000 to
    fidomail@fidonet.fi 18:37:30 SMTP connection closed 18:37:30
    Netmail: 1, Personal: 0, Hudson: 0, JAMbase: 0 18:37:30 Msgbase
    net: 0, echo: 0, dup: 0, bad: 0 18:37:30 Pack Active: 0.0076 sec.
    === Cut ===

    Sent and received fine.
    -
    So can we all use your SMTP server for relaying fmail's mail packets?


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Apr 6 12:06:04 2026
    Hello Tommi,

    Monday April 06 2026 11:48, I wrote to you:

    Sent and received fine.

    So can we all use your SMTP server for relaying fmail's mail packets?

    Guess not:

    D:\fido\FMAIL>fmailw32 pack
    FMail-W32-2.3.0.1-Beta20240319 - The Fast Echomail Processor
    Copyright (C) 1991-2024 by FMail Developers - All rights reserved

    Scanning netmail directory...

    Packing messages...

    Message #1 : 2:280/5555 -> 2:221/1000
    Moving \FIDO\MAIL\1.msg to \FIDO\RSMAIL\11440.msg
    Backup \FIDO\OUTBOUND\9d384f80.pkt -> \fido\oubackup\9d384f80.pkt
    Create \FIDO\OUTBOUND\00dd03e8.flo
    Sending new mail from 2:280/5555 to 2:221/1000


    Connecting to 51.38.115.207 (51.38.115.207) on port 25 (SMTP)
    Sending mail for node 2:221/1000 to fidomail@fidonet.fi
    Expected 250, received 450: SMTP server error
    No RCPT TO: success reply
    SMTP connection closed

    Netmail: 1, Personal: 0, Hudson: 0, JAMbase: 0
    Msgbase net: 0, echo: 0, dup: 0, bad: 0

    Pack Active: 3.328 sec.

    D:\fido\FMAIL>


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Apr 6 20:44:48 2026
    TK> Sent and received fine.
    -
    So can we all use your SMTP server for relaying fmail's mail packets?

    To the addresses that I accept to relay. Like *fidonet.fi.

    However, your HELO was rejected.

    "Helo command rejected: Host not found; from=<noreply@vlist.eu> to=<fidomail@fidonet.fi> proto=SMTP helo=<Fido>"

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/360.0)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Apr 6 21:38:10 2026
    Hello Tommi,

    On Monday April 06 2026 20:44, you wrote to me:

    TK> Sent and received fine.

    So can we all use your SMTP server for relaying fmail's mail
    packets?

    To the addresses that I accept to relay. Like *fidonet.fi.

    OK...

    However, your HELO was rejected.

    "Helo command rejected: Host not found; from=<noreply@vlist.eu> to=<fidomail@fidonet.fi> proto=SMTP helo=<Fido>"

    So please enlighten me, why exactly was the HELO rejected? Is is because noreply@vlist.eu is not a valid e-mail address? I tried again with a valid address, but I get the same error. ??


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 7 15:38:52 2026
    On 6.4.2026 22.38, Michiel van der Vlist wrote:

    However, your HELO was rejected.

    "Helo command rejected: Host not found; from=<noreply@vlist.eu> to=<fidomail@fidonet.fi> proto=SMTP helo=<Fido>"

    So please enlighten me, why exactly was the HELO rejected? Is is because noreply@vlist.eu is not a valid e-mail address? I tried again with a
    valid address, but I get the same error. ??

    You need to send FQDN when talking to my Postfix. Now your FMail sends just "Fido" which doesn't resolve. I don't think you can change that behaviour in FMail so it's better to use your own local mail server. Or just forget the whole thing. :)

    'Tommi

    --- FastEcho/2 1.46.1 Revival
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Apr 7 16:31:32 2026
    Hello Tommi,

    On Tuesday April 07 2026 15:38, you wrote to me:

    "Helo command rejected: Host not found; from=<noreply@vlist.eu>
    to=<fidomail@fidonet.fi> proto=SMTP helo=<Fido>"

    So please enlighten me, why exactly was the HELO rejected? Is is
    because noreply@vlist.eu is not a valid e-mail address? I tried
    again with a valid address, but I get the same error. ??

    You need to send FQDN when talking to my Postfix. Now your FMail sends just "Fido" which doesn't resolve. I don't think you can change that behaviour in FMail

    There are just two things I can configure for this function:

    1) My e-mail adress
    2) SMTP server to use.

    I should add that this has worked inm the past when my provider's SMTP server still accepted raw SMTP on port 25.

    Do you consider it a bug in Fmail that your SMTP server rejects me, or is it something in you SMTP server? Like requiring an additional authorisation?

    so it's better to use your own local mail server. Or just forget the
    whole thing. :)

    I think I will just forget it like I actually did many years ago when providers stopt accepting raw SMTP. Installing my own local mail server just for this purpose is too much. I never was enthousiastic about Fido over e-mail anyway. So I will indeed just forget it. For me this function of Fmail is unusable.

    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464.112 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Apr 7 16:55:52 2026
    Hi Tommi,

    On 07 Apr 26 15:38, Tommi Koivula wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:
    about: "Weekly nodelist report on noteworthy changes (093)":

    However, your HELO was rejected.

    "Helo command rejected: Host not found; from=<noreply@vlist.eu>
    to=<fidomail@fidonet.fi> proto=SMTP helo=<Fido>"

    So please enlighten me, why exactly was the HELO rejected? Is is because
    noreply@vlist.eu is not a valid e-mail address? I tried again with a
    valid address, but I get the same error. ??

    You need to send FQDN when talking to my Postfix. Now your FMail sends just "Fido" which doesn't resolve. I don't think you can change that behaviour in FMail

    Do you think a hardcoded 'fidonet.org' in FMail would work for everyone?


    Wilfred.

    --- FMail-W64 2.3.2.3-B20250509
    * Origin: point@work (2:280/464.112)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Apr 7 21:16:18 2026
    Hi Michiel.

    07 Apr 26 16:31, you wrote to me:

    You need to send FQDN when talking to my Postfix. Now your FMail
    sends just "Fido" which doesn't resolve. I don't think you can
    change that
    behaviour in FMail

    There are just two things I can configure for this function:

    1) My e-mail adress
    2) SMTP server to use.

    I should add that this has worked inm the past when my provider's SMTP server still accepted raw SMTP on port 25.

    Times change.. Nowadays it is not so easy to send mail, for example to @gmail.com from ipv6 address. ;)

    Do you consider it a bug in Fmail that your SMTP server rejects me, or
    is it something in you SMTP server?

    My server simply checks the hostname in HELO. It is intentional. Helps with spammers.

    Like requiring an additional authorisation?

    That would of course help. ;)

    'Tommi

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20260304
    * Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/360)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tue Apr 7 21:23:06 2026
    Hi Wilfred.

    07 Apr 26 16:55, you wrote to me:

    You need to send FQDN when talking to my Postfix. Now your FMail
    sends just "Fido" which doesn't resolve. I don't think you can
    change that
    behaviour in FMail

    Do you think a hardcoded 'fidonet.org' in FMail would work for
    everyone?

    For sure better than "Fido". The real reverse of the sender would be better.

    'Tommi

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20260304
    * Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/360)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Apr 7 21:18:28 2026
    Hi Tommi,

    On 2026-04-07 21:23:06, you wrote to me:

    You need to send FQDN when talking to my Postfix. Now your FMail
    sends just "Fido" which doesn't resolve. I don't think you can
    change that behaviour in FMail

    Do you think a hardcoded 'fidonet.org' in FMail would work for
    everyone?

    For sure better than "Fido". The real reverse of the sender would be better.

    That would require an other setting, and too much work for a mostly unused funtion...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.6-B20251227
    * Origin: NPC Station (2:280/464)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Apr 7 21:36:30 2026
    Hi Tommi,

    On 2026-04-07 21:18:29, I wrote to you:

    You need to send FQDN when talking to my Postfix. Now your FMail
    sends just "Fido" which doesn't resolve. I don't think you can
    change that behaviour in FMail

    Do you think a hardcoded 'fidonet.org' in FMail would work for
    everyone?

    For sure better than "Fido". The real reverse of the sender would be
    better.

    That would require an other setting, and too much work for a mostly unused
    funtion...

    I was looking at the code, and it turns out on both linux and windows it uses the gethostname() function (which is posix) to get the string to put behind the HELO command.

    On linux this returns the same string as the 'uname -n' command. On windows it's the output of the 'hostname' command. And probably just the computer name, something Michiel could set himself if he likes to experiment with this. ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.6-B20251227
    * Origin: NPC Station (2:280/464)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Apr 8 12:03:38 2026
    On 7.4.2026 22.36, Wilfred van Velzen wrote:

    You need to send FQDN when talking to my Postfix. Now your FMail TK>>>> sends just "Fido" which doesn't resolve. I don't think you can
    change that behaviour in FMail

    Do you think a hardcoded 'fidonet.org' in FMail would work for
    everyone?

    For sure better than "Fido". The real reverse of the sender would be TK>> better.

    That would require an other setting, and too much work for a mostly unused
    funtion...

    I was looking at the code, and it turns out on both linux and windows it
    uses the gethostname() function (which is posix) to get the string to
    put behind the HELO command.

    On linux this returns the same string as the 'uname -n' command. On
    windows it's the output of the 'hostname' command. And probably just the computer name, something Michiel could set himself if he likes to
    experiment with this. ;-)

    So it *IS* working pretty much as it should. ;-)

    'Tommi

    --- FastEcho/2 1.46.1 Revival
    * Origin: nntp://rbb.fidonet.fi - Finland (2:221/360.0)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Apr 8 12:28:24 2026
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Tuesday April 07 2026 21:36, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    I was looking at the code, and it turns out on both linux and windows
    it uses the gethostname() function (which is posix) to get the string
    to put behind the HELO command.

    On linux this returns the same string as the 'uname -n' command. On windows it's the output of the 'hostname' command. And probably just
    the computer name, something Michiel could set himself if he likes to experiment with this. ;-)

    I did some experiments. Let's move this to the FMAIL_HELP area.


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555)
  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Apr 8 12:28:32 2026
    Hello Tommi,

    On Wednesday April 08 2026 12:03, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    I was looking at the code, and it turns out on both linux and
    windows it uses the gethostname() function (which is posix) to get
    the string to put behind the HELO command.

    On linux this returns the same string as the 'uname -n' command. On
    windows it's the output of the 'hostname' command. And probably just
    the computer name, something Michiel could set himself if he likes
    to experiment with this. ;-)

    So it *IS* working pretty much as it should. ;-)

    No, it is not. See my comment in FMAIL_HELP.

    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Tommi Koivula on Wed Apr 8 13:26:00 2026
    * Originally in NODELIST-POLICE
    * Crossposted in FMAIL_HELP

    Hi Tommi,

    On 2026-04-08 12:03:39, you wrote to me:

    I was looking at the code, and it turns out on both linux and windows
    it uses the gethostname() function (which is posix) to get the string
    to put behind the HELO command. On linux this returns the same string
    as the 'uname -n' command. On windows it's the output of the 'hostname'
    command. And probably just the computer name, something Michiel could
    set himself if he likes to experiment with this. ;-)

    So it *IS* working pretty much as it should. ;-)

    You would guess so given the function name. But in practice it's not (see Michiels test)...

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.6-B20251227
    * Origin: NPC Station (2:280/464)
  • From Ivan Zelenyi@2:50/86.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Fri Apr 17 06:53:40 2026
    Hello, Michiel van der Vlist.
    On 07.04.2026 16:31 you wrote:

    I think I will just forget it like I actually did many years ago
    when providers stopt accepting raw SMTP. Installing my own local
    mail server just for this purpose is too much. I never was
    enthousiastic about Fido over e-mail anyway. So I will indeed just
    forget it. For me this function of Fmail is unusable.

    Does Fmail support SSL/TLS?

    I use a script to read ?lo-files (with hex number of my link) and then send packets using mutt+msmtp (with SSL).

    --
    With best regards,
    Ivan Zelenyi
    --- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Ivan Zelenyi on Fri Apr 17 09:13:40 2026
    Hello Ivan,

    On Friday April 17 2026 06:53, you wrote to me:

    I think I will just forget it like I actually did many years ago
    when providers stopt accepting raw SMTP. Installing my own local
    mail server just for this purpose is too much. I never was
    enthousiastic about Fido over e-mail anyway. So I will indeed
    just forget it. For me this function of Fmail is unusable.

    Does Fmail support SSL/TLS?

    No.

    I use a script to read ?lo-files (with hex number of my link) and then send packets using mutt+msmtp (with SSL).

    That would be the better aproach. If you wish to support Fido Over E-mail...


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555)