• Re: How to save on gas

    From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Bj÷rn Felten on Sat Mar 14 09:14:56 2026
    Björn Felten wrote to Mike Miller <=-

    7. Sell your gas-guzzling F-150-style penis enlarger and buy a Tesla.

    BMW i3s are a depreciation leader - buy a used one at a fraction of the
    new price. I picked up a 2018 REX model, with the little gas engine range extender for $18000 USD in 2024. List price was in the $50K range.
    18,000 miles.

    With 120 mile range on electric and another 80 gas, it's suited for
    smaller commuted or smaller countries. :)

    Great little car, but my work situation changed and I went from working
    from home 5 days a week to a 150 mile round trip 2x/week. Ended up
    getting a Lexus Hybrid that gets me 58 MPG on my highway work trips.

    I do miss charging at home, though.





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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Björn Felten on Sat Mar 14 11:25:50 2026

    Hello Bjorn!

    17 Jun 70 00:31, you wrote to me:

    Mike Miller -> Matthew Munson skrev 2026-03-13 23:04:
    Good news! the R2 pricing was just announced, and it's similar
    to the Tesla Model Y price-range for the base R2.

    I thought you were talking about saving money? Buying a new Rivian
    is probably not what people struggling with higher gas prices are considering.

    Maybe a simple calculation based on very common examples would be better?

    Vehicle Value:
    You can sell a 5-year-old Ford F-150 Lariat for approximately
    $31,000 - $35,000 and purchase a used Tesla Model 3 for about $20,000
    - $23,000.


    If you're struggling with higher gas prices, a 5 year old F-150 isn't what you own.

    Also, while there are a small number of people who own pickup trucks around here just for the sake of having a pickup truck, many own them because they use them for what they were intended for. To haul things.

    For instance, I don't own a pickup truck, but I do have an older, larger SUV (2008 Jeep Commander). I use it for towing my boat, I haul things (gear for ham radio outings, ice fishing, yard cleanup, etc.), and occasionally I have to jam a bunch of people in it to go somewhere. None of this is very pratical with a small Tesla.


    Immediate Cash Gain:
    You pocket roughly $10,000 in cash upfront from the trade.

    Ongoing Monthly Savings:
    You reduce your "fuel" expenses by approximately $144 per month
    (over $1,700 per year) based on current U.S. national averages.

    Maintenance:
    The Tesla Model 3 is estimated to have 40-60% lower maintenance
    costs, as it eliminates oil changes and has significantly fewer moving parts.


    very few people will trade in their pickup truck for a mid-size car, unless their life has changed drastically. People who have a truck as a "status symbol" definitely won't, because it's their entire identity (much like Tesla has become your entire identity). People who have a pickup truck to use it for what it was built for won't, because then they can't do those things.

    You're comparing apples to oranges. The only vehicle Tesla makes that's comparable is the Cybertruck, which you can't get for under $70,000.

    Also, there's the whole "Swasticar" thing. Musk tried to buy a non-partisan supreme court election in my state last year. We kicked him in the balls so hard that he hasn't really poked his head into politics since (he even ran away from Trump and DOGE), but the few cybertrucks you see around here are owned by the same people who idolize Musk, as well as Trump. You know, cultists.

    It's really hard to separate Tesla from Musk here, after what he tried to do. Quite a few people have Model 3s with stickers that say "I bought this before Elon went crazy", although it could be said he's been crazy for a very, very long time.



    Mike


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Mike Miller on Sat Mar 14 08:32:34 2026
    Mike Miller wrote to All <=-

    Good tips!

    2. Drive a little slower (keep the RPMs down to use less fuel!)

    Air resistance is a big contributor to MPG, too. The faster you go, the
    more drag air creates.

    3. Avoid stop & go traffic

    I drove a Prius for 10 years, anticipating traffic makes a huge
    difference. I'd coast to a stop when there wasn't traffic behind me
    (although with regenerative braking, I'd get a charge boost from light
    braking)


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