• Re: Has Iran been defeated?

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Mon Mar 23 15:45:22 2026
    During his campagin launch "rally" in 2020 he said it.

    also, there's this: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/unlocking-cures-fo atric-cancer-with-artificial-intelligence/

    He still has time to do it.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Max Stubbs on Mon Mar 23 16:07:20 2026
    The 7000+ dead Iranian protesters ar
    sorry that you're paying so much for
    your gas.

    Those protesters are also sorry that
    your president replaced 1 dictator with
    the worse version of the same dictator,
    when he wasn't even the favored option
    prior to killing his daddy. Real
    successful operation by the
    "liberator," everybody clap.

    You're ignoring Iranians on video cheering the death of Khamenei, and you're putting words in the mouths of 7000+ dead people. There's a word for that but I won't say it because you seem like a pretty good guy.

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  • From Brent Hendricks@1:135/250 to Max Stubbs on Mon Mar 23 14:01:24 2026
    On Mon 23-Mar-2026 10:07a, Max Stubbs@1:103/705.0 said to Brent Hendricks:
    Re: Re: Has Iran been defeated?
    By: Brent Hendricks to Ron L. on Mon Mar 23 2026 02:36 am

    Ahh yes. There you two go again...
    If we don't agree with your narrow
    world view as told by the Trump
    administration and MAGA, we are
    "Lefties", and must be running aroun
    with our sock puppets.

    To be fair, I AM a lefty :) Got me a
    DSA card and all.

    Not the point I was trying to make, there are several people in this group that no matter what evidence or sources your bring to the table that calls into question the rhetoric they spew, they come back with the same lines everytime.

    I could care less what side of the political pendulum you have planted yourself on, if I have information that calls that into question, I will fairely debate you on it.

    Arlo Guthrie said it best. " You can find that you have more in common with people on the opposite side of an issue than you think."

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Mar 17 12:55:36 2026

    Hello Aaron!

    20 Jun 70 15:08, you wrote to me:

    countries have indicated that they will not provide that
    help. This i
    a problem that the US caused and that the US must now solve.

    A year ago, Trump said that Iran's nuclear facilities were
    "obliterated" Their ability to make nuclear weapons was "set back
    years"

    It's been a year and he underestimated the rebuild time.

    Or he lied. Most independent organizations/governments agreed that it hadn't done much to hamper Iran's nuclear ambitions.

    So, was he lying then? or was he lying now?

    Or, and my money is on this one: Was he lying both times?


    Surely Kamala would have done a better job. Let's vote for Kamala in
    2028. She knows exactly how long it takes terrorists to rebuild
    nuclear weapons, unlike incompetent Trump.

    If I believe she's the best candidate in 2028, I will vote for her. That said, there are others that I would prefer to win the nomination over her.

    HOWEVER, she is not president. nor is Joe Biden. This discussion is about the actions and words of the current president.

    Mike


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  • From Max Stubbs@1:103/705 to Mike Miller on Tue Mar 17 11:10:18 2026
    Re: Has Iran been defeated?
    By: Mike Miller to Aaron Thomas on Tue Mar 17 2026 12:55 pm

    Well we don't have to look far to see
    he's lying. See the recent MAGA
    resignation, dude says as much.

    MAGA continues taking Ls that hurt
    everybody for no reason while
    refusing to acknowledge them.
    Lessons will be learned eventually.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Tue Mar 17 20:26:12 2026
    A year ago, Trump said that Iran's nuclear facilities were
    "obliterated" Their ability to make nuclear weapons was "set back
    years"

    It's been a year and he underestimated the rebuild time.

    Or he lied. Most independent organizations/governments agreed that it hadn't done much to hamper Iran's nuclear ambitions.

    If someone gives an estimate of "years" and it turns out to be "a year" I don't consider that lying.

    Biden said that he'd cure cancer if he became president. Was that Democrat lying? Obama said that he'd make healthcare affordable for all Americans. Was that Democrat lying?

    You've got to give Trump some time. If it turns out that there was no such enrichment facility in Iran, then you get the right to call him a liar.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Mar 24 09:30:16 2026
    On 23 Mar 2026, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    He still has time to do it.


    And... Trump 2028!!!!

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  • From Max Stubbs@1:103/705 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Mar 25 07:20:48 2026
    Re: Re: Has Iran been defeated?
    By: Aaron Thomas to Max Stubbs on Mon Mar 23 2026 04:07 pm

    You're ignoring Iranians on video
    cheering the death of Khamenei, and
    you're putting words in the mouths o
    7000+ dead people. There's a word fo
    that but I won't say it because you
    seem like a pretty good guy.

    I'm not ignoring them at all. But where
    are those people now? Trump was not
    trying to and has not attempted to
    help those people, who we can agree
    are justly against a Theocracy. He
    has set them back not helped them.

    And say what you want, I won't hold it
    against you outside of this board. I
    will rise to the same level you may,
    though, I believe in climbing the
    escalation ladder.


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  • From Max Stubbs@1:103/705 to Brent Hendricks on Wed Mar 25 07:27:08 2026
    Re: Re: Has Iran been defeated?
    By: Brent Hendricks to Max Stubbs on Mon Mar 23 2026 02:01 pm

    I could care less what side of the
    political pendulum you have planted
    yourself on, if I have information t
    calls that into question, I will
    fairely debate you on it.

    Fuckin AMEN brother, that's what I like
    to hear. Have principles, fight for
    them, adjust as you learn, and always
    be critical when you know you must.

    It's how we grow, it's how democracy
    functions, and how we reach consensus
    we can all live with.

    My fight with MAGA, beyond the lack
    of human empathy, has primarily been
    driven by my perception that they
    have generally entirely abandoned
    our foundational value of
    enlightenment era democratic
    principles, and I cannot abide that.

    There are other issues beyond that,
    but if an American refuses to believe
    in our national ethos, you cease being
    an American to me. As for non
    Americans, it's a matter of having
    quality back and forth that's
    productive.

    So rock on and stay Metal brother!



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Max Stubbs on Wed Mar 25 21:57:46 2026
    You're ignoring Iranians on video
    cheering the death of Khamenei, and
    you're putting words in the mouths o
    7000+ dead people. There's a word fo
    that but I won't say it because you
    seem like a pretty good guy.

    I'm not ignoring them at all. But where
    are those people now? Trump was not
    trying to and has not attempted to
    help those people, who we can agree
    are justly against a Theocracy. He
    has set them back not helped them.

    After the genocide, Trump deployed the USS Lincoln, an aircraft carrier, a combat ship, a destroyer, and said to the Iranian people "Help is on the way." We have at least 4 reasons to attack Iran and payback for all those deaths falls somewhere on the list.

    How does what Trump's doing help the regime? How does it hurt the 7000 people who died? Did they want Trump to send a planeload of cash to the regime instead?

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