Make voting harder, put obstacles in
the way, and eventually you bleed off
and Trump is not a criminal, his bogus charges will be over turned.
IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-
We can also vote to get rid of the Senate leader and move on to someone willing to get the job done.
Isn't the filibuster an amendment though? Wouldn't the senate have to
vote on it? There's no way out until we have a bigger majority (unless
I'm missing something.)
I agree with that too though. If Trump wants it to get voted on, then Thune should take a vote on it. When we see the end of this predicament we'll know exactly who to blame, one way or the other.
Right. Thune is weak. I know that if I were GOP majority leader in the senate then I wouldn't rest until I had everyone's vote on this. They'd either be saving America or they'd be on a "definitely primary" list.
Friend, you are setting yourself up for a fell for it again award. Far
be it for me to stop you.
I haven't laughed that hard in a while, thanks for that. Like hell they will. And any Dem that doesn't hold him accountable is getting their
balls nailed to the wall by me and all the peeps I know. This era of domestic brutalism, corruption and corporate cronyism must end, and we must build working systems for the American people. No more pussyfooting around and wishy washy neo-liberalism and neo-conservatism.
But they won't remove a Senate leader who's protecting them.
And you don't have to stop me.
Well who would dare stop an ideological
opponent digging themselves into a
grave?
Isn't the filibuster an amendment though? Wouldn't the senate have to vote on it? There's no way out until we have a bigger majority (unles I'm missing something.)
Senate RULES... Recall Senator Harry as the Senate majority leader during Barry's stint in office??
So, it's, not a bad thing to go to a Speaking Filibuster, we had it for the majority of our existence. Mind you when the Senate first made the rule the Democrats didn't hate America and had policies more than
"Orange Man Bad".
Right. Thune is weak. I know that if I were GOP majority leader in th senate then I wouldn't rest until I had everyone's vote on this. They either be saving America or they'd be on a "definitely primary" list.
They need to vote to get rid of him.
He's an educated idiot, as many
congress people are. It's an
American tradition.
IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-
But they won't remove a Senate leader who's protecting them.
I think it only takes 5 votes... Senator Lindsay Graham is Gay for
war... maybe he'll take on this battle.
flag, and even if you're a tourist f
China you're more than welcome to ca
a ballot, because we're nice,
kind-hearted, welcoming people.
You have a point... This is the same
pool of people that Joe Biden & Kama
were pulled from.
It would be interesting to see where the other GOP senators stand on keeping Thune as majority leader. I'd also be interested in knowing why they chose him in the first place.
Thank you for explaining that. That makes sense; if an overwhelming majority of Senators want something done, the president can't stand in their way. It seems like a good idea until this happens:
So with that being said, there should be no filibuster. Being a political minority means being a loser, and senators fitting that description shouldn't have special accommodations (filibuster.)
That sucks. I was excited with the 2024 and 2025 election results, but deep down I knew not to expect much legislation to happen.
So the senate did this to themselves, and they have the power to fix it? And Thune has no ambition to fix it? That's a failure.
It sounds better than what we have now. But a filibuster of any sort contradicts democracy.
I never heard of Thune until the 2024 elections. Was he the "minority leader" prior to the 2024 elections? There have been many more outspoken GOP senators who deserve the position more than he does.
They are only "for" war when they will benefit from it. And I don't
think they are benefiting from this one.
So the senate did this to themselves, and they have the power to fix And Thune has no ambition to fix it? That's a failure.
Yes, a vote. Recall Kevin McCarthy?? That's how they ousted him. I think they need 5 people to table the vote and a simple majority to replace him.
Since F**k Nuts has us deadlocked on a 80/20 issue we might as well be deadlocked trying to replace him.
Yes and no, it was implemented to allow the minority to voice their
views on a bill.
President can veto a bill and send it back to the Senate, the Senate overrides the veto with 60 votes.
So, in comes the Zombie Filibuster and THIS is a threat to democracy. It requires a 60 person vote... and now they run off to face the TV cameras blaming each other.
I saw Thume on TV today saying the Democrats talking points... He's
being paid off.
I hope so. We need to finish pushing the Democrats off the cliff so
they can never regain power.
Then we can focus on getting rid of the RINOs.
I'm a lefty but this is a point I agree
on actually. The last thing I want is
for you cats to get your agenda across;
however, this bein a democracy, the
GOP did win the last elections and thus
should have the ability to get their
agenda across, however painful and
fucked I think it is. The back and
forth of congress is supposed to be
healthy and responsive, and the current
filibuster destroys that for both
parties, so that no voter ever feels
that they get the changes you voted
for.
In 1975 they moved things down from 2/3rds (67) to 60... That 1975
2/3rds was a rule passed some time ago.
Important takeaway... This is a Senate Rule and with a simple majority
to make changes. The Speaking Filibuster as I described was the way it was since the beginning of time and it was in place to give the minority
a voice.
Senator Kennedy was talking about pushing it through the process of reconciliation, a way they can do it with 50+1 votes.
IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-
I think we'll get over this. but we need to PRIMARY the sh!t out of
these RINOs.
So, in comes the Zombie Filibuster a
THIS is a threat to democracy. It
requires a 60 person vote... and now
China you're more than welcome to ca
a ballot, because we're nice,
kind-hearted, welcoming people.
Show me the law tht makes your
hallucination reality. Show
me the politician advocating for
that. Other than some green party
loon you're not going to find
one. Because you're makin that up
up in your head. And we mustn't
operate from the basis of a
fever dream in this country.
You have a point... This is the same
pool of people that Joe Biden & Kama
were pulled from.
Absolutely correct, and they sucked
too, in varying ways.
IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-
We have an 85/15 split on this bill its funny AF that political people buck the voters.
but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such
Regulations...
The Save America Act can/should be seen as a REGULATION!!! Whereby the States use the regulation to guide them.
Politicians LIE all the time.
Aaron Thomas wrote to IB Joe <=-
Your description still makes sense, but the precept doesn't make sense
to me. It's equates to "Even if the majority wants something, the
minority still has the opportunity to take it away from them."
It's like if I hired a mechanic to make my car go faster, but then I'm required by law to take it to another mechanic who will make it go
slower.
Yup. Hence why they don't want it.
SAFE means that the Elitists can't
choose which candidate gets 'elected
Simple example: A majority of a town votes to allow anyone to take any
car for use and forces people to leave their keys in the car. A judge
can come in and rule that the new law is unconstitutional and strike it down.
Just because the majority want to do something doesn't mean it's right or legal.
Oklahoma's recent anti-trans license
bill jut instantaneously invalidated
a small chunk of voter's driver's
I just want to point out that Oklaho
is MAGA country and Trump won 100% o
Oklahoma's counties, and it's absurd
for an outspoken leftist to cry abou
voters in Oklahoma. You're grasping
straws.
Your description still makes sense, but the precept doesn't make sense
to me. It's equates to "Even if the majority wants something, the
minority still has the opportunity to take it away from them."
I like that guy and I hope he can help make this happen.
You live in a state where voter ID i
already required. In my state, I wal
into the polling place with 2 legs a
a pair of pants, they ask me for my
name and address, and they hand me a
ballot.
That's it. No ID, no voter card,
nothing.
You live in a state where voter ID i
already required. In my state, I wal
into the polling place with 2 legs a
a pair of pants, they ask me for my
name and address, and they hand me a
ballot.
That's it. No ID, no voter card,
nothing.
I would wager if I look into the
election system in your state
that the names on the ballots
are run against registered voters
in your district, et al. It's just
done after the fact, not prior to
the people's arrival to the polls.
What's your home state so I can see
your laws?
That's how I see it too. I'd rather watch The View than listen to
Candace Owens. At least those old hags have jobs.
There are other RINOs in the senate who will vote against saving Amer Something needs to be done about that before he calls a vote on it. Shouldn't he postpone it until next year? It has a 0% chance of passi right now.
It does. If they go with the speaking filibuster they need 50, and we have that, and JD will break the tie or Fetterman can.
Candace Owens entertains the idea that the earth might be flat. So
much so, that she sent a producer with an expedition to Antarctica a little over a year ago to see if the sun was up for 24 hours there (it was)
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-
The majority shouldn't be allowed to do something illegal, but I think
the majority should be allowed to change a law.
is MAGA country and Trump won 100% o
Oklahoma's counties, and it's absurd
for an outspoken leftist to cry abou
voters in Oklahoma. You're grasping
straws.
It is never absurd to speak out about
the government doing wrong to people.
The majority of cats in the South
in the 19th century wanted slavery.
It was still wrong.
Senator Kennedy said it best...
Paraphrasing... Complete geniuses
founded the country and now idiots a
in charge of it now.
Ex: Muslims have invaded many areas
the U.S. In those areas, they are t
majority. If we had a simple "major
rule", then the minorities would
suffer.
But have you spoken to these "trans
people in Oklahoma" who had their
drivers licenses revoked? Have you h
any updates from them lately? (You
should give them a call and check on
them in case they are having trouble
getting around.)
He, like many others, ought first
to start by glancing at a mirror.
But have you spoken to these "trans
people in Oklahoma" who had their
drivers licenses revoked? Have you h
any updates from them lately? (You
should give them a call and check on
them in case they are having trouble
getting around.)
Have you spoken to any of your anglo
friends in Minnesota who have had
their jobs allegedly stolen by
fraudulent illegal Somalians? You
should probably give them your money.
because of DEI the Democrats suck in
many flavors.
It's NY. The point is: If you have a
name and address of a registered vot
(alive, dead, whatever) and you go t
the right polling place with their n
and address, you can vote for them.
It's NY. The point is: If you have a
name and address of a registered vot
(alive, dead, whatever) and you go t
the right polling place with their n
and address, you can vote for them.
I'm looking at your laws now. Says that
everyone must be registered beforehand
for your vote to count, that first time
voters MUST ID themselves via photo ID,
utilities or other proof of
citizenship, that voters are checked fo
validity prior to holding the
elections, and samples of polling
stations are audited for accuracy each
federal election. So it looks like ID
ing already happened, but before and
after the vote.
DEI was a bogey man blown up by your
peeps to make you think people were
icing you out because of your skin
color. What you've actually championed
is removin a program that is also used
to ensure that veterans and women and
the disabld aren't iced out of
employment, not just for hiring [insert
ethnic group yo don't like here].
color. What you've actually championed
is removin a program that is also used
to ensure that veterans and women and
the disabld aren't iced out of
employment, not just for hiring [insert
ethnic group yo don't like here].
But great, it's gone. Is your life
better now? Ask your self tht each day
and let me know when you can point out
a concrete way in which DEI policies of
the government and private companies
have improved your day to day.
You won, but what did you win? That's
what y'all need to really be asking.
You can't be missing the point this badly. Voters in my state are not required to show ID when they vote and that's exactly what this conversation was about, and that's exactly what the SAVE America act is about.
Except for the whole pesky thing about it overstepping the constitutional authority reserved the each individual states.
Though Trump and his supporters continue to constantly ignore the constitution, and checks and balances.
Furthermore, holding the legislative branch hostage by refusing to sign any bills into law which includes funding for other government agencies
is consoncieable.
Sure he can miss the point that bad.
Remember that he's just another left
bot. So he's told every day what to
think and all he can do is quote the
Leftie talking points of the day.
I need to add "Missing the point" to
the official leftist procedures manu
along with a tagline of "It's so
stupid, it's smart."
Think about it like this: You go to
courthouse for a hearing, and they
screened you through the metal detec
when you walked in, but then you
realized that you left some importan
papers in the car. You go back out
to the car to retrieve them, but upo
re-entry to the courthouse they want
you to go through the metal detector
again.
What do you do? Start crying about t
constitution? Or act like an adult a
go through the metal detector once
more?
There's a word for it when a person
does something to harm people but
shifts the blame onto the victims, b
you seem like a nice guy so I won't
call you it.
Yeah it's called MAGATRY and you are a
MAGAT, perforiming MAGATRY. I'm happy
to call you it if it makes you feel
better. It's certainly cathartic for
me.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-
On Fidonet I talk to them, but in real life I avoid them.
stir anything up so I was just like "Yea, it's expensive." So I dodged
it, but of course it bothers me that people care more about gas prices that they do about nuclear safety and/or 7,000 dead Iranian civilians.
stir anything up so I was just like "Yea, it's expensive." So I dodge it, but of course it bothers me that people care more about gas price that they do about nuclear safety and/or 7,000 dead Iranian civilians
That's the standard Socialist redirection.
Make them focus on some, usually minor, problem and not the big problems that the Elitists are causing.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-
Yea, it's not the old lady's fault, it's the people who are programming her incorrectly. This is one of the rare occasions where the world news
is actually necessary for the message of "The Iranians are blocking oil shipments," but the media knows that it's easier to program "Trump bad, gas prices high."
It's your 21st birthday and you show
at a busy liquor store to buy a bott
of rum.
10 months later, you come back into
store to buy another bottle but with
your ID, expecting the clerk to
remember your face from 10 months ag
"Remember me? I bought that bottle o
rum. I was wearing a rainbow colored
t-shirt. Don't you dare ask me for m
ID again."
Do you ever feel that lefties live i
Opposite World?
It's called "projection" and the
Lefties do it all the time.
"Accuse your opponent of what YOU do
Right out of Saul Alinsky's playbook
I need to add "Missing the
point" to the official
leftist procedures manual,
along with a tagline of "I
so stupid, it's smart."
Do you ever feel that lefties l
in Opposite World?
That's how they want us to feel, but
they are the ones who are backwards.
I was at a school meeting yesterday
the leftists said "we hire school
resource officers to form relationsh
with the students, and for safety."
When I corrected them by saying "We
only hire them for safety, not to fo
relationships," they all started
hissing at me exactly like snakes wo
if you tore the roof off their den.
Imagine calling 911, and when they s
"What's your emergency?" you tell th
"I'm a teenager and I need to form a
relationship with an officer."
MLK, fought foe EQUAL rights, not
special rights.
The problem is that he's not capable
He's not capable of even getting a j
that would pay enough so he could mo
out of his mom's basement.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <
That's true. The other people a
the meeting were all school
employees (worker bees) who wil
do anything to defend the
superintendent (queen bee.)
In a hive, there's no memo syst
with notes that say "The queen
wrong about something."
One of the YouTube channels I listen
is called "Liberal Hivemind" because
it's so true.
That's why I simply don't interact w
any drones I encounter anymore. It'
not worth it. They can't think for
themselves and since they are all
programmed, you know what they are
going to say/do before they actually
it.
... A wife lasts as long as a marria
an ex-wife for ever.
___ MultiMail/Linux v0.52
That's the standard Socialist
redirection.
Make them focus on some, usually min
problem and not the big problems tha
the Elitists are causing.
"The Iranians are blocking oil
shipments," but the media knows that
it's easier to program "Trump bad, g
prices high."
This is a much better analogy, I will
grant you. However the issue is tht
your state does still have methods of
voter ID that are more reasonable and
don't place burden on the voter. For
example, New York has signature
matching and electronic pollbooks.
You're MAGA. You don't trust the
government, I would presume. What would
you do if New York was 100% going
republican at the next election, and
the Dems introduced some new ID law
that you knew was gonna be hard for
your 80 year old republican Puerto
Rican neighbor to get done because he
was born at a rural hospital back in
the day and didn't have a valid birth
certificate, but was a US citizen, but
was also broke as fuck?
This is a rel scenario btw. My
Grandfather before he died was one such
person; no one, not even him, knew when
he was born and it was not documented.
All that was known was that we has born
at some point in the 30s in San Juan.
Still a US citizen, still has the right
to vote (well, when he was alive
anyhow.) In your state he could
exercise his vote. Under your rules, if
"I'm a teenager and I need to form a
relationship with an officer."
I would think that the school cop
knowing who the kid are, which ones are
bad eggs and aren't, etc, would be part
of the job. You know: formin a
relationship. I won't pretend to know
how your meeting went but I would think
you at least want the school cop to
know which kid is most likely to be a
school shooter and which ones are
harmless.
"The Iranians are blocking oil
shipments," but the media knows that
it's easier to program "Trump bad, g
prices high."
And how, pray tell, did that come to be
the case? I guess the Iranians closed
the strait because they hate our
freedom, eh?
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